{"id":1844,"date":"2020-11-22T00:27:54","date_gmt":"2020-11-22T07:27:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/?p=1844"},"modified":"2020-11-22T00:39:43","modified_gmt":"2020-11-22T07:39:43","slug":"battery-tech","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/battery-tech\/","title":{"rendered":"Battery Tech"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is all new to me. Here are a some links that have helped me understand battery technology a little.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1)<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sokbattery.com\/blog\/post\/what-is-the-difference-between-lithium-ion-and-lithium-iron-phosphate-batteries\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Difference Between Lithium Ion And Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>2)<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.victronenergy.com\/blog\/2015\/03\/30\/batteries-lithium-ion-vs-agm\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Batteries: Lithium-ion vs AGM<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The concept of <em>discharge capacity<\/em> is new to me and something that I had not considered when designing this mobile system. In short, drawing a lot of energy from a battery can reduce its life and how long it works at a given time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3)<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grepow.com\/blog\/lifepo4-battery-vs-lithium-ion-polymer-battery\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The difference between LiFePO4 batteries and other li-ion batteries<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>4)<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/hackaday.io\/page\/7275-difference-between-lithium-ion-lifep04-battery\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Difference between Lithium-Ion &#038; LifeP04 Battery<\/a><\/p>\n<p>After reading these (and lots of other links!) I am currently thinking:<\/p>\n<p><strong>A)<\/strong> Lead-Acid is just not going to work. Too heavy, toxic and lame. (Thanx Erich \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<p><strong>B)<\/strong> LiFePO4 is an amazing technology that must be more fully explored. Super cheap, light, non-toxic and seems to be able to handle our energy requirements.<\/p>\n<p><strong>C)<\/strong> Tried one Li-ion battery but the experience was less than satisfying. It is far more expensive than LiFePO4 and we do not need to extreme discharge capacity that it offers. <\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00BMUJX6Y\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">35Ah U1 AGM Solar Battery<\/a> &#8211; 35Ah &#8211; $70<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07281C1HZ\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Featherweight Lithium Battery<\/a> &#8211; 6 Ah &#8211; $140<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07Q7FY8CC\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">6Ah Miady Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery<\/a> &#8211; 6Ah &#8211; $30<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07X7MD2JK\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">16Ah Deep Cycle LiFePO4 Battery<\/a> &#8211; 16Ah &#8211; $50<\/p>\n<p>These are the batteries I have tried. <\/p>\n<p>The heavy AGM one I used before I realized that I shouldn&#8217;t run AGM batteries all the way down. It ran at 80+% volume for over 3 hours. I have not run any tests on it since I drained it though. It really doesn&#8217;t matter if it works or not as we will not be using this old, heavy, toxic battery in the Bike Party system. While the proof-of-concept shows that it is possible to use this specific battery to fulfill our power requirements, it fails at toxicity and weight.<\/p>\n<p>The Lithium-Ion battery powered the box for 2.5 hours at 80+% volume. I was so stunned by it&#8217;s performance I couldn&#8217;t believe it. So I ran it a second time after charging it overnight and it cut off after just 1.5 hours. I have not gotten it to play at volume for more than an hour since.<\/p>\n<p>I then tried the tiny 6Ah LiFePO4 battery figuring; &#8220;Hell! If that beefy AGM ancient-old-but-reliable tech could only get 3 hours and the super expensive cutting-edge new tech one got 2.5 tops and only 1 now&#8230; this tiny toy battery probably won&#8217;t last 15 minutes.&#8221; Shocker of shockers&#8230; the thing powered through over an hour at high volume. <\/p>\n<p>WTF? I simply had to test this again. And I did. After about an hour of charging time, the thing lasted for 42 minutes. Well, well well&#8230; We may have a winner.<\/p>\n<p>I searched around and ordered the 16Ah version for less than 2x the cost of the 6Ah one and&#8230; what do you know&#8230; this thing just goes and goes and goes for a little over 3 hours.<\/p>\n<p>Of the three I ordered, one didn&#8217;t charge correctly and kept turning the charger off. Rather than mess with it, I am exchanging it for another identical one. The other two work great though.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>My next steps are to hook up a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B085ZQFVWH\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">battery monitor meter<\/a> and stream <a href=\"http:\/\/drdicksdubshack.com\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>Dr Dick&#8217;s Dub Shack<\/em><\/strong><\/a> from Bermuda at full volume while observing amp loads and documenting how long the individual batteries last.<\/p>\n<p>I also want to see if these <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07V6NJ37P\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">SAE Power Socket Sidewall Port<\/a> will allow me to run the box continually while the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B087TDDZRG\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">3A smart battery charger<\/a> is powering it. <\/p>\n<p>Wish me luck. Diving back in&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/98DF9EC2-9147-4809-B646-25DBF0D513CA.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"4032\" height=\"3024\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1838\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/98DF9EC2-9147-4809-B646-25DBF0D513CA.jpeg 4032w, https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/98DF9EC2-9147-4809-B646-25DBF0D513CA-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/98DF9EC2-9147-4809-B646-25DBF0D513CA-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/98DF9EC2-9147-4809-B646-25DBF0D513CA-1024x768.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 4032px) 100vw, 4032px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/drdicksdubshack.com\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/5B644255-807E-424D-A37A-BE7420FECE4E.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1124\" height=\"1837\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1863\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/5B644255-807E-424D-A37A-BE7420FECE4E.jpeg 1124w, https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/5B644255-807E-424D-A37A-BE7420FECE4E-184x300.jpeg 184w, https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/5B644255-807E-424D-A37A-BE7420FECE4E-768x1255.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/5B644255-807E-424D-A37A-BE7420FECE4E-627x1024.jpeg 627w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1124px) 100vw, 1124px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.oaklandish.com\/blogs\/news\/girl-mobb-x-oaklandish\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/2658E6AA-9838-4F7D-9371-33B05DC8F57E.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"2436\" height=\"1125\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1835\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/2658E6AA-9838-4F7D-9371-33B05DC8F57E.png 2436w, https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/2658E6AA-9838-4F7D-9371-33B05DC8F57E-300x139.png 300w, https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/2658E6AA-9838-4F7D-9371-33B05DC8F57E-768x355.png 768w, https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/2658E6AA-9838-4F7D-9371-33B05DC8F57E-1024x473.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2436px) 100vw, 2436px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is all new to me. Here are a some links that have helped me understand battery technology a little.<\/p>\n<p>1) Difference Between Lithium Ion And Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries<\/p>\n<p>2) Batteries: Lithium-ion vs AGM<\/p>\n<p>The concept of discharge capacity is new to me and something that I had not considered when designing this mobile &hellip; <\/p>\n<p><a class=\"more-link block-button\" href=\"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/battery-tech\/\">Continue reading &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1847,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1844","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1844","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1844"}],"version-history":[{"count":19,"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1844\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1866,"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1844\/revisions\/1866"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1847"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1844"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1844"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbhsound.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1844"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}